PayPal is a crock. Just masking their UA in a sheeps clothing. At sheering time, you will feel the true sheeps skin.
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Don't waste time or money on an attorney. If you accept PayPal then your own TOS are overridden by the PayPal TOS (it's in their UA) so your TOS will mean nothing. They only way that could be beneficial to you is to drop PayPal.
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Well, the reason I ask is because I always thought the PayPal TOS stood ground over any auction TOS. I'd like a link if possible so I can clarify because a post of mine on another thread was pulled for simply saying that. Here it is: Hello public_service_announcement, Recently we became aware that your eBay registered account was involved in the following activity: Including profanity, vulgarity, hate speech, disruptive or hostile comments, interpersonal disputes, or threats of violence in a post. which is not permitted at eBay. This is a copy of your post: public_service_announcement (0 ) View Listings | Report Jun-26-06 11:52 PDT 22 of 25
southcal, Don't waste time or money on an attorney. If you accept PayPal then your own TOS are overridden by the PayPal TOS (it's in their UA) so your TOS will mean nothing. They only way that could be beneficial to you is to drop PayPal. We realize that you may not have been aware there was a rule against this activity. Therefore, we would like to take this opportunity to invite you to review our site policies, which can be found at: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/everyone-boards.html ------------------- Can someone also tell me how my post includes: profanity, vulgarity, hate speech, disruptive or hostile comments, interpersonal disputes, or threats of violence? If my post contains incorrect information, I want to know so that I don't post it in the future.
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Well it's nice to see that I wasn't the only one who couldn't find anything wrong with my post.
What lamers it takes to do that. If I break a rule - fine. But that post did not break any rules.
Mike, I got notch #1 noted..lol
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I responded to someone who was making comments about me that they dont even know me and that we have never really interacted with each other so please stop
I've never seen someone try and squirm out of something like 2000 did here:<br><br><b>cliniclady2000</b> (85 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 16:19 PDT 41 of 131 <br><b>antique, NO reputable Antique Dealer would EVER attempt to authenticate anything on a website...I can assure you.</b> <br> <br><b>cliniclady2000</b> (85 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 16:19 PDT 42 of 131 <br><b>So I can assume by your response that you do not have a COA for the item or an appraisal from a dealer?</b> <br><br> <br>cliniclady2000 (85 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22- 06 16:20 PDT 43 of 131 <br>Spammer is correct..it will not do the OP one bit of good to withdraw the funds... <br><br> <br><b>antiquarianmadness</b> (770 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 18:28 PDT 44 of 131 <br><b>clinical- Three points- One, it is not my item (which shows that you don't read too closely) and two you obviously don't know a single thing about antiques. Third, do you have an idea as to how many FAKE COAs that are issued?<br><br>You strike me as someone sitting there with a book of some sort at your side that is doing your thinking for you. Stick to quoting your Terms Of Service for Paypal and I'll stick to commenting on art & antiques that I have been studying for 30 years. Oh, I've been handling money for the past 30 years as well so I do feel qualified to comment when I see scams like this one that is occuring thru your beloved paypal.</b> <br> <br>gnutoewe (127 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 19:20 PDT 45 of 131 <br>WOW now thats tell her!!! <br><br> <br>gnutoewe (127 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 19:21 PDT 46 of 131 <br>Better look out she will find something wrong with your selling or grammar <br><br> <br><b>cliniclady2000</b> (85 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 19:24 PDT 47 of 131 <br><b>I take it your answer is no then.</b> <br><br> <br><b>antiquarianmadness</b> (770 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 19:37 PDT 48 of 131 <br><b>clinical- What didn't you understand about my answer when I said it was not my item? I explained it in easy to understand language. Let me ask you, if it is not my item why do you think I would have a COA for it? You are not makin' a lick o' sense, Barney. <br>Are you in India? Has Paypal outsourced the shills on the Paypal discussion board to India?</b> <br> <br><b>cliniclady2000</b> (85 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 19:52 PDT 49 of 131 <br><b>Because BARNEY, YOU are responsible for YOUR listing. And if you do not have a COA and Appraisal for something of that value you LOSE! Get it now?</b> <br> <br><b>antiquarianmadness </b> (770 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 19:52 PDT 50 of 131 <br>" antique, NO reputable Antique Dealer would EVER attempt to authenticate anything on a website...I can assure you." <br><br><b>Well what do you make of this this here website thingy called ebay where every single day dealers and collectors make monetary decisions (sometimes in the thousands of dollars) and determine authenticity by bidding on and buying antiques???? By putting their dollars on the line, they are in essence, authenticating these items OR THEY WOULD NOT BUY THEM!!!<br><br>There are MANY THOUSANDS of antique dealers who use this site every day to buy antiques and you, who does not know anything about antiques, is calling them disreputable? Stick to something you know about, jeez.</b> <br><br> <br><b>cliniclady2000</b> (85 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 19:55 PDT 51 of 131 <br><b>LOL, you know nothing about me. You would not know that my Grandmother bought and sold Antiques. <br>You are correct, many are bought and sold daily. The fact is, you have no clue about an item you sold. The buyer may in fact be 100% correct in that the item is a fake and you have nothing to back up your assertion that it is not a fake.</b> <br><br> <br><b>antiquarianmadness</b> (770 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 20:02 PDT 52 of 131 <br>"Because BARNEY, YOU are responsible for YOUR listing. And if you do not have a COA and Appraisal for something of that value you LOSE! Get it now?"<br><br><b>Please go back to the very top of this thread and slowly read the name of the OP (original poster). Good. That's not my name, is it? Well, that's one mystery out of the way.</b> <b>You were giving out mis-information and I felt like commenting on it and that is my interest in this thread. You continue to give out bad information even when corrected. Are you thinking if you say it over and over like Ann Coulter from the TV that it somehow becomes truthful?</b> <br> <br>gnutoewe (127 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 20:06 PDT 53 of 131 <br>you would not believe just how long she can keep on going like this <br><br> <br>gnutoewe (127 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 20:08 PDT 54 of 131 <br>just watch she will fight to get the last word in no matter how stupid it gets <br><br> <br><b>cliniclady2000</b> (85 ) View Listings | Report Jun-22-06 20:11 PDT 55 of 131 <br><b>Antiques...the YOU is a universal YOU...as in a seller YOU...I know you are not the OP. He is MIA.<br>I am not giving misinformation. Do you not think Paypal will not ask for a COA? Do you not think the Seller would be wise to have one? <br><br>gnut, got your account straight yet? :o)</b> <br>__________________________________<br><br>This is just too freakin funny. CL2000 was telling a poster off about an auction she didn't even list!!! The antique lady came back and one upped her and then she tried to wiggle out of it by saying it was a universal "you"..... ok.....yeah right.....I've laughed till my sides hurt reading this. Don't people pay attention on here?
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Why yes ma'am icey....the CAPP board is of much reading pleasure. A former poster here by the name of Dan (who collected stamps) is going off over there, showing behavior like Ive never seen. A very foul mouthed individual. He must be bitter at something.
Could I possible get away with posting the link to CAPP in my "About Me" page? The peeps here should see how disturbed this man really is/was all this time.
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Well, I'm sure some people didn't know what kind of a person Dan was until reading his posts. Yowza!!
The CAPP board has no financial backing, there are no paid ads or offers for merchant accounts. It's just a board which is not moderated where people can speak the truth. The pro's here do no like it because they cannot moderate it and I have "heard" they have been instructed not to sign up at those sites so they cannot go there and rebute anything either. Their hands are tied.
Visiting a site does not mean you will get a virus. The instant you connect to the internet, even if you never open a browser, you are able to get viruses, adware, spyware - all of it. Yahoo poses the greatest risk of those items. I have never even gotten so much as a pop up ad at the CAPP board. I have no reason to fear anything there or at any other site. My protections run automatically anyway and will auto block anything that tries to come in. Never had an alert at any of those sites. Those who say otherwise are just using a scare tactic because they do not want the newbies to read the truth.
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Hot Off the Press!!! - Google Payments (G-Buy) News!! public_service_announcement (0 ) View Listings | Report Jun-28-06 01:25 PDT
The news reports and articles are popping up everywhere this morning! Every single one of them mention that Google will go head to head with PayPal, although PayPal discretely denies it - thats marketing talk. We KNOW they will.
Try to keep news stories to one thread. I'm sure it will be a busy day.
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I am using Google in my auctions, however I am not listing it in my auctions. I state that the buyer will be invoiced at auction end and then I send an email with the option to pay by check, money order or credit card via Google Checkout. I insert the HTML of the Google BUY NOW button into my email.<br><br>I will not ever accept PayPal simply because of their poor customer service. Even if their policies were identicle, I'd still try GC to see how their customer service was.<br><br>No company is going to eat a SNAD, but they can help you fight it and thats something PayPal will not do.<br><br>If you want more info on Google, come on over to the PayPal board where I post...lol. It's a catfight over there! Or, check my me page for a link to a free speech board. There is some Google info there.
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public_service_announcement (0 ) View Listings | Report Jun-30-06 22:12 PDT 13 of 13 Clinic, <br><br>Are you aiding in any more policy circumventions on eBay? We now know that you dig through auctions and feedback but you somehow forgot to mention that you actually BID on and WON those auctions which VIOLATE eBAY POLICY by clearly accepting cash....remember....just over a week ago?<br><br>Why did you not report those auctions too Clinic? Was it an auction of someone you know?<br><br>It's only fair that if we talk about the OP's history, we talk about yours here as well - since you brought it up.
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I apologize for the length of all that but I wanted to copy word for word so no one could claim I edited anything. The only thing I edited was the "hot off the press" thread where I took out where I inserted the actual article in the thread.
I really would like clarification from them on 3 of those posts though. They serve an opinion but do not violate board policy. Heck, one of my violations was because I was trying to get clarification on another "violation" that does not break board rules.
I noticed that nothing happened though, until I reported a post on Sandy or Clinic.....can't remember which one it was but the post was clearly in violation. Once I did that, is when I became banned.
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They will not give you any clarification as then they will have to tell you what you posted that was in violation. Since nothing is in violation of policy they will not comment.
They are the lowest form of life known to man and can not justify their actions.
PSA: you bring up an interesting point. I reported one post of clinics today that was definitely a violation..just one post was reported and then I got all the slaps..veeerrrryyyy interesting
They will not give you any clarification as then they will have to tell you what you posted that was in violation. Since nothing is in violation of policy they will not comment.
They are the lowest form of life known to man and can not justify their actions.
unfrozen_caveman_lawyer... Has it right.
Don't fear the fake reapers because the REAL reaper will get THEM in the end.
I mean don't FRET over a pink slap or sanction.
If you really want back in it is easy to do.
Hell the last ID I registered to play on the PP boards, I used my xppman@hotmail.com account.
Seems ebay and liverworlds "state of the art" blocking system didn't even detect I was going IN.
It's a mess, they are a mess and for fun... WE can make a mess of them.
Well thats some crap.. I hate that.. you were the best poster we had over there IMO. You know, our constitutional rights trump their UA. I think we should start printing out our pink slaps for the things that in no way could be offensive or breaking the rules and maybe we all should contact a civil rights Attorney. Its not a public forum, if it is not open to the public. I think that what they are doing is illegal. a civil rights attorney could shape it up real nice. And it wouldnt cost us dime if he/she thought we had a good case... Just a thought. How can they exclude us from a public forum if we are not breaking the rules? To me its like harrassment. We are not employess of Ebay, Paypal or Liveworld. They have no right to silence us.. Well At least I dont think they do... Any opinions on this matter?
xppman wrote: Guys and GALS you are NOT going to GET their posts removed by reporting.
If and when you try that triggers them to know who is reporting.
THEY WORK FOR PPBAY.
Yep, I agree.
Xppman, do you recall about 2 or 3 years ago when something went wrong with the boards and people were able to see each others IP numbers or something like that? There was a TAGnotes archived article about it but I cannot find it right now.
Well, anyway that was when it was revealed that reporting posts also sent them your info, possibly your IP number AND contact info to the board mods. If anyone remebers that incident and can find that article please post it in its own thread.
Waste of time reporting the pros posts.
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I also know whoever is running the PP boards. The supervisor at (least) has access to the admin panel of the forums. All forums have one and all forums give the admin the capability to see many things and the IP address is one of them. So see if your IP is static (the same all the time) and you get a second ID.
Slandering Sandy can just look at a thread (from the admin panel) See one ID (poster A) and compare it to another (say poster B).
If both IPs match up the witch knows poster a and b are one in the same. At that point she can either decide to play with you a while (knowing you are one in the same) or decide to block the IP from posting any further.
It's really nothing more than a power trip for a VERY insecure small group of psychologically imbalance individuals. (I think that is a job requirement to work for LieWorld).
I tell you this though if they deleted too many posts or posters too quickly all you will see there is them talking to themselves. LOL
PS anonymous do I know you? Were we comrades in arms during the PP logo wars?
I only went to the PP boards around 6-7months ago after taking a really big chargeback right in the sphincter. I only read a few references to the PP logo scenario. Where can I see the old shield one?
I got burned about a total of 5 times, including one where the clown begged me to send a refund via postal money order then still filed chargeback. PayPal would not take the mo receipt as proof I already refunded him. I doubt a real person ever read it. Over the phone they basically told me tough luck.
The worst one came 6 months after the sale, shipped with sig conf. and everything. PayPal does not do jack-doodlely-squat to fight wrongful chargebacks.
I think it is safe to say we are comrades in arms now, because I will never stop. Those thieves need their hands cut off.
Wonder how long it will take them to figure out a hundreth of an ounce of prevention is worth a hundred LBs of cure?
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