eBay Announces 'Proactive Fraud Reduction' Policy ~ AuctionBytes

budnonymous · Top Poster

RE: eBay Announces 'Proactive Fraud Reduction' Policy ~ AuctionBytes

budnonymous · Top Poster

From the comments section:

eBay has been doing this listing delay sham for a good 3 Years on eBay Motors, and looking at my site http://www.ebaymotorssucks.com you can see just how effective it has been!

All the scammers do is list a simple legitimate looking auction, let it pass through pre-search screening, then revise it after it is search-able. Many motors professionals suspect all eBay is doing is delaying listings so we think they are looking for fraud. Now they come up with this same line of bull as a measure to curb the fraud on the core site!

Here is a screen shot of how the scammers do it.
http://www.ebaymotorssucks.com/images/na...

These are the facts.. No mater how eBay tries to spin it!

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I would have too agree with tht e above statement. Consumers/users simply browsing by category etc will be able to see and fall victim to the bogus listings.

This new "Proactive Fraud Reduction" is "pretty funny and ridiculous", although that was not the 1st catch phrase to come ton mind.

All this will really do is to prevent folks from finding and reporting (or DOCUMENTING) the fraud.

This does absolutely NOTHING to protect consumers, only to shield the fraud. This is just another in a clearly continuing series of actions which appear to be purposefully designed to conceal or obfuscate fraud, and which clearly harm or place at greater risk, the consumers.

Fraud which ebaY profits from.

Coupled with ebaYs other fraud ensuring measures, such as the "SMI" plan, it is time to increase consumer awareness (again)

Time to kick IT up another notch.

BAM!!!

budnonymous · Top Poster

An example of how the new policy works...
The listings appear as newly listed. Note that the time encode in the screencaps is very close.

But upon opening the listing, weee see that it has in fact run for quite some time, which, can and will be found by persons browsing by category, if not more ways.

All the measure serves is to conceal the fraud and harm the consumer. PERIOD.

(oops, except to further illustrate the level of outright DISHONESTY!!!)

Scrolling down the page a bit, we see a very familiar email address,

Montana.Investments@gmail.com

An addy which has been used time and time again, and which was featured in ream after ream of listings yesterday, may even still or again be there now, and NO DOUBT will be there again, soon.

You need not be a dental floss tycoon to see that the hackers OWN ebaY!!!
(yippie aye oh! Ky-Ay!!!)

Oh, and BTW, I have listings captured which showed within mere minutes of their actual listing times, I will post those later.

What was that Romanian phrase for, (roughly) "This one will walk by", or something very similar?

-- Edited by budnonymous at 13:59, 2007-04-16

budnonymous · Top Poster

related follow-up;

Auctionbytes-Update, Number 189 - April 15, 2007 - ISSN 1528-6703

AuctionBytes Soundoff: Letters from Readers

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I still do not find words like HACK, or Hijack even mentioned, although there are a couple soundoffs about the new "policy".

I have a hard time believeing that no one is sounding off about that.

It does seem a shame, to me anyway, that the #1 online auction related publication is not giving these recent, very serious, continuing, persistant, ongoing events/problems some proper level of reasonable, objective coverage.

budnonymous · Top Poster

Here is a very tiny sample of a bunch of hacked hijacked accounts in the last few days.

This is one of the email addies which has been used time and time again, and ebay IT seems, is absolutely powerless to stop.

AppleWebb81@gmail.com

Here is a description search for the scam email addie in question. They have been unstoppable. If ebay happens to cancel/pull them, they will be back on the air again in no time flat. Look at the times indicated....

So much for whatever delays they were talking about anyway. (I am sure everyone realizes by now that ebay has a LOT of bungling buffoons, so NEVER believe anything from them. NEVER... EVER!)

Here is a fresh screencap, made just one minute or so before I post this.

-- Edited by budnonymous at 05:58, 2007-04-17

lieworld · Senior Member

I think so many are just so over the whole ebay "experience" any more.

This is why you don't see such an outcry.
People are moving on and have been for quite some time.