Does this mean LW posters on feeBay's boards will soon be sporting an identifying banner like the pinks?
The Federal Trade Commission yesterday said that companies engaging in word-of-mouth marketing, in which people are compensated to promote products to their peers, must disclose those relationships.
Well it looks like it is time to advise consumers to file complaints to the FTC about the sleazebay/painpal shills over there. They will get plenty.
We all know they are shills, it is a no-brainer. They will never admit to it unless there is a law, & even then they will still try and deny.
Check the last 2 paragraghs out. (bolding mine)
Peter Blackshaw, chief marketing officer for Nielsen BuzzMetrics, which tracks the effectiveness of word-of-mouth marketing, said brands have more than a moral incentive to be upfront with consumers. "There's a high turn-off factor if consumers learn that the person making a recommendation is actually on contract," with an incentive to push a product, he said.
A 2005 survey of 800 consumers by market research firm Intelliseek found that 29 percent of participants age 20 to 34 and 41 percent of those age 35 to 49 said they would be unlikely to trust a recommendation again from a friend whom they later learned was compensated for making the suggestion.
Aaaaahhhh!!!! Yes it looks like a victory for consumers!!!
Sleazebay/painpal are about to get some more dubious publicity. The way things are going they may as well put the pistols to their heads right now.
(Reprise of increasingly maniacal laughter)
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We can all be sure that regardless of any alledged evidence of alledged shill-posters on ebays liveworld moderated message boards, if ebay says there are none, they must be right.
After all, ebay has never lied before, right?
I doubt the new FTC rule is anything for them to worry about.
They will just ignore it and carry on like nothing ever happened.
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Not a nanosecond before they must. We can all be sure that regardless of any alledged evidence of alledged shill-posters on ebays liveworld moderated message boards, if ebay says there are none, they must be right. After all, ebay has never lied before, right? I doubt the new FTC rule is anything for them to worry about. They will just ignore it and carry on like nothing ever happened.
I told you peeps all along it was deceptive advertising and seem the FTC agrees. Now if this was old school. (Wild west or mid evil times) We would have drag the cons through the streets and to the edge of town. Kick thier assess and dare them to EVER return.
Figured I better go ahead and put the whole artical here.
FTC Moves to Unmask Word-of-Mouth Marketing
Endorser Must Disclose Link to Seller
By Annys ShinWashington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, December 12, 2006; Page D01
The Federal Trade Commission yesterday said that companies engaging in word-of-mouth marketing, in which people are compensated to promote products to their peers, must disclose those relationships.
In a staff opinion issued yesterday, the consumer protection agency weighed in for the first time on the practice. Though no accurate figures exist on how much money advertisers spend on such marketing, it is quickly becoming a preferred method for reaching consumers who are skeptical of other forms of advertising.
Word-of-mouth marketing can take any form of peer-to-peer communication, such as a post on a Web blog, a MySpace.com page for a movie character, or the comments of a stranger on a bus.
As the practice has taken hold over the past several years, however, some advocacy groups have questioned whether marketers are using such tactics to dupe consumers into believing they are getting unbiased information.
In October 2005, Commercial Alert, an advertising and marketing watchdog group in Portland, Ore., petitioned the FTC to consider taking action
against word-of-mouth marketers. The group called for the FTC to issue guidelines requiring paid agents to disclose their relationship to the company whose product they are promoting, including any compensation.
The group cited a 2002 Wall Street Journal article on a marketing campaign by Sony Ericsson Mobile for its T68i mobile phone and digital camera. The initiative, called "Fake Tourist," involved placing 60 actors posing as tourists at attractions in New York and Seattle to demonstrate the camera phone. The actors asked passersby to take their photo, which demonstrated the camera phone's capabilities, but the actors did not identify themselves as representatives for Sony Ericsson.
Commercial Alert also singled out Tremor, a marketing division of Procter & Gamble, which has assembled a volunteer force of 250,000 teenagers to promote the company's products to friends and relatives.
Procter & Gamble spokesman Terry Loftus said participants in its word-of-mouth campaigns are free to talk negatively or positively about a product or service and do not receive compensation. Volunteers are not required to disclose their relationship with the company, he said. Some participants receive sample products, he said, so they can offer an opinion on a product.
Word-of-mouth advertising is already covered under existing FTC regulations that govern commercial endorsements. What the FTC sought to do yesterday in its staff opinion was to note that such marketing could be deceptive if consumers were more likely to trust the product's endorser "based on their assumed independence from the marketer."
"The petition to us did raise a question about compliance with the FTC act," said Mary K. Engle, FTC associate director for advertising practices. "We wanted to make clear . . . if you're being paid, you should disclose that."
The FTC said it would investigate cases where there is a relationship between the endorser of a product and the seller that is not disclosed and could affect the endorsement. The FTC staff said it would go after violators on a case-by-case basis. Consequences could include a cease-and-desist order, fines and civil penalties ranging from thousands of dollars to millions of dollars. Engle said the agency had not brought any cases against word-of-mouth marketers.
Though the staff's opinion fell short of Commercial Alert's original request, the group's executive director, Gary Ruskin, said he was pleased the staff agreed that word-of-mouth marketing could be deceptive.
"This letter tells marketers like Procter & Gamble that their 'sponsored consumers' must disclose that they are shilling, or they are probably in violation of the prohibition against deceptive advertising. That's big," he said. "It will change practices in the word-of-mouth marketing industry."
Andy Sernovitz, chief executive of the Word of Mouth Marketing Association, said the FTC's decision was an endorsement of the industry's efforts to police itself. The Chicago-based association, which has more than 300 members, last year issued a code of ethics stating that marketers should disclose ties to sponsors.
The group has also tried to hold members accountable. Sernovitz said the group is reviewing the membership status of the Edelman public relations firm after Wal-Mart, one of the firm's clients, reportedly gave positive comments to bloggers who then posted the comments without mentioning the source. Edelman later admitted that some of its employees had written the blogs.
Procter & Gamble, which is not a member of the association, recruits volunteer marketers online, Loftus said. The company chooses volunteers based on their answers to a survey on the Tremor Web site, which tells participants if they join the Tremor Crew they could "name the next big movie" or "help design a video game."
Peter Blackshaw, chief marketing officer for Nielsen BuzzMetrics, which tracks the effectiveness of word-of-mouth marketing, said brands have more than a moral incentive to be upfront with consumers. "There's a high turn-off factor if consumers learn that the person making a recommendation is actually on contract," with an incentive to push a product, he said.
A 2005 survey of 800 consumers by market research firm Intelliseek found that 29 percent of participants age 20 to 34 and 41 percent of those age 35 to 49 said they would be unlikely to trust a recommendation again from a friend whom they later learned was compensated for making the suggestion.
sandypurins (242 ) View Listings | Report Apr-14-07 18:59 PDT 73 of 75 284dan, Give it up... the idiotic claims that I work for LiveWorld, PayPal or eBay are just plain ludicrous...
I don't see credibility in your future.
Sandy
cliniclady2000 (86 ) View Listings | Report Apr-14-07 19:08 PDT 74 of 75 past or present.
scorehog (99 ) View Listings | Report Apr-15-07 09:48 PDT 75 of 75 Posting on lacking credibility? :O
I just want to say. I can't wait till these paid asp hats are finally busted on the eBay's boards. You know.. the PAID and 'contracted', LW peeps who 'think' no one knows who they are. http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=78886&p=3&topicID=9555030&topicPage=6
Helen, Slandery (add a new, one... post_a_note) and the rest of the now 'laid off' group, who just can't stay away.
It's going to be a hoot, once all these frauds are exposed, by the law.
Thank you LieWorld... we don't say that enough.
On a side note: If the FTC don't 'get em' I have a few other legal ways that will make them all have to STFU.
It's going to be a hoot, once all these frauds are exposed, by the law.
Thank you LieWorld... we don't say that enough.
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Did you folks have a chance to see this? There is alot to that story which is not in that article though. It raised awareness. This really is a huge issue.
Anyone out there who is reading this, if you believe there are paid shills on a company sponsored board or oriented message board, file a complaint with the ftc