That (above) is a very shocking interview.

Notice how many times they mention the word HACKER in the eweek podcast above?
(Except one time at the end.)

The other very telling curiousity is that ebaY was asked to participate, but could not make it.

Hear the part about a FAKE ebaY site?

Nearly everything that the interviewee mentions is documented here on CAPP

I still like some parts of the Vladuz j show better.